How often and for how long do you recommend moist heat for the Peyronie's scars?

How often and for how long do you recommend moist heat for the Peyronies scars?   Thanks, Roger

Greetings Roger, 

Use moist heat prior to the topical or external therapy (DMSO application or especially manual stretching technique) .  For this reason it will be more efficient to perform these together as a group so you do not have to do it several times a day. 

However, it is probably not advisable to use moist heart immediately prior to Genesen therapy since it would easily throw off any level of tissue sensitivity and make it falsely look like EVERY place you touch with the pens are active – when this is not actually true.  You would wind up wasting your time by treating points that did not need it although they appeared to need it.

5-10 minutes is a good time range to apply the heat.  You are only attempting to draw blood to the area of the shaft, and it does not take that long to dilate the blood vessels for that purpose; you are not poaching meat.   TRH  

What other therapies or supplements should I consider at this point?

Dear Dr. Herazy:

I just started following the medium or  "better" program for PD. What other therapies or supplements should I consider at this point?

I was thinking about the Genesen Acutouch acupuncture system. Do you think this is a good idea?

If you could give me any thoughts you may have, I would appreciate it.

Thank you for your time and care, your email was very informative.



Greetings Charles,

My suggestion is that right now you should pay very close attention to the size, shape, density and surface features of your scar, and faithfully follow your current Peyronie's treatment plan.  You should do this for 10-14 days to determine if your medium plan is able to favorably influence your scar.

if it does change your scar then all you need to do is continue with the medium plan just as you are using it until the changes of scar stop or your scar goes away. 

If it does not change your scar then you need to modify your current plan – not add to it – in some way.  With the medium plan this is usually to increase the dosage of MSM, Fibrozym, Nattokinase or Scar-X.  Then you continue for another 10-14 days to see if this plan modification was able to makes changes to the size, shape, density or surface features of your scar.    

if it does change your scar then all you need to do is continue with the modified plan just as you are using it until the changes of scar stop or your scar goes away. 

If it does not change your scar then you need to modify your plan again in some way.  You continue with this slow increase of therapy for a few cycles.  If at this point you have run out of ideas, then please contact me and we can discuss your situation.     

Yes, the Genesen pens are a great therapy for several reasons.  Probably the first is the power of these pens to treat a wide variety of problems; a book is included that lists how to use the Genesen pens to treat over 100 different conditions.  Then you have the ability to duplicate a very expensive level of treatment without incurring a great expense.  Also, you can treat yourself and your acupuncture points more often than you could afford to do so if you were going to the office of a professional.  The Genesen pens are often the difference that boosts therapy results from so-so to significant.  You might consider buying them later if it becomes apparent that you need extra help. 

Let me know how I can help you.   TRH

Peyronie’s Treatment Sensations

Strange reaction to Peyronies therapy

Every now and then I get a question about the variety of unusual sensations and reactions that men notice during Peyronie’s treatment, or immediately after, a particular therapy used in Peyronies treatment.  These are the Peyronie’s disease therapies most often associated with this kind of response:

  1. Genesen Acutouch Pointers
  2. Manual stretching method found on the CD
  3. DMSO PMD formula
  4. Super CP Serum copper peptide ointment

Most often the sensation is described as a “tingling” or “aching” or “electrical” sensation in or near the area of treatment.  It can be felt during or within the hour any of these therapies are applied.  The intensity can be variable from time to time it is felt; sometimes very mild and hardly noticeable, and at other times enough to wake a person from a sound sleep. Sometimes the response occurs each time the treatment is done, and for other men the reaction occurs every now and then at irregular times.

If you experience this kind of reaction in the area of your Peyronie’s scar, do not become alarmed. It is common and usually signals some good response to your Peyronie’s treatment as changes are occurring in the condition of the scar.

This is not something that has been studied much in the scientific literature since those researchers prescribing drugs or standard medical procedures for PD do not get the kind of reactions and responses that occur while following the Peyronie’s Disease Institute therapy principles.  They do not report this kind of reaction because they do not make the kind of rapid changes that are seen in men using the PDI protocols.

Therefore, there is no research that has been done to explain this phenomenon.  It is my theory that these reactions are due to the rapid changes that take place in the tissue in and around the scar material.  During or after a particular Peyronie’s treatment a change may occur in the tension and length of the otherwise contracted scar material of the penis.  These alterations of tension and position of the tissue layers could easily explain the unusual sensations that occur. I find from my own treatment experience, and that of other men who have had improvement in their Peyronie’s disease, that these “moving” or “tingling” or “aching” sensations appear when the scar is undergoing some level of change (improvement).  Many men come to count on the appearance of these changes to herald improvement of their scars from time to time.

It is most probably NOT just one therapy or just the one product causing this usual sensation.   It is closer to the truth to say that these sensations are the sum total of all the synergistic efforts that are included in your therapy plan. The problem (a good problem) with using so many of these therapies together is that you will never be able to accurately say which one did the most or least for you.   A synergistic Alternative Medicine therapy plan is a group effort, with all therapies making some contribution to whatever happens to you.

Please email your questions about Peyronie’s disease treatment to this blog.

Peyronie's Disease Treatment with Genesen Acutouch Pointers

Genesen Acutouch pens for Peyronie’s treatment

So many readers of the Peyronie’s Disease Treatment Blog use the Genesen Acutouch therapy pens and report good tissue changes after Peyronie’s treatment with them. For this reason this blog commentary will focus on basic techniques and concepts for their correct use.  Please recall that these Genesen Acutouch pens are the same professional quality instruments used to deliver acupuncture treatment for Peyronie’s disease.

Many people ask about treating the Peyronies plaque with them, wanting to know if it is better to use the holders that come with the pens or to just hold both pens manually.

The answer is that either methods will work for Peyronies treatment, depending upon each person’s particular response to the therapy. While there is a lot of research behind the development and use of the Genesen Acutouch Pointers by the Korean manufacturer, I would start out closely following their guidelines. Most men find using the Genesen pen holders is more comfortable and convenient, although some say the rigid distance that the holders mandate is not as effective for them as a slightly greater/lesser distance.  Each user must feel free to experiment with the Genesen Acutouch instruments or pens – be creative – and use the approach that delivers the greatest “reaction” that is described on the PDI website.

Some men get confused about pen tip placement around the Peyronies scar. It is important to remember to keep the pen tips 1/8 to ¼” from the edges of scar.  If a scar is ¼” in size, that means your pointers are rather close to each other, and if a scar is 3” in size your pointers are considerably farther apart.  The idea is to get the pens to deliver the current through the substance of the scar – whatever its size.   Since the manufacturer’s holder keeps them 1 1/2 inches apart, I would work with that distance too, especially if the scar is smaller than 1¼” in size.   Even if it is pea-size, try keeping the pens in the holder and stay farther away than the 1/8 to ¼” distance from the edges that I just mentioned.  You see, there are no rules, just guidelines that should eventually result in greater reactivity.  Break most any rule I give you about the Genesen pens, to see if you can generate a stronger or more dependable reaction.  Stand on your head in the corner, if it seems to give you the greatest response.

The Genesen pens are extremely popular for good reason; they are effective, easy to use, inexpensive compared to going to an acupuncturist at $90-$125 a visit, and very convenient to use in the privacy of your own home.

Each set of Genesen pens comes with my own 10 pages of notes that I created for the treatment of Peyronie’s disease. These outline some very common and popular treatment protocols. Any of these could be used by an acupuncturist who might easily needle these for you. The big advantage of the Genesen pens is that you can treat yourself in this very same manner, any time of the day or night, and several times a week, as you wish.  You can really concentrate your treatment with frequent care for best results, without going broke.

Consider adding the Genesen Acutouch pens to your therapy lineup if you are not seeing the kind of results you want.